On the pile-up effect and priors for L-inf and M/K: response to a comment by Hordyk et al. on "A new approach for estimating stock status from length frequency data" Reply

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Froese R., Winker H., Coro G., Demirel N., Tsikliras A. C., Dimarchopoulou D., ...More

ICES JOURNAL OF MARINE SCIENCE, vol.76, pp.461-465, 2019 (SCI-Expanded) identifier identifier

  • Publication Type: Article / Editorial Material
  • Volume: 76
  • Publication Date: 2019
  • Doi Number: 10.1093/icesjms/fsy199
  • Journal Indexes: Science Citation Index Expanded (SCI-EXPANDED), Scopus
  • Page Numbers: pp.461-465
  • Istanbul University Affiliated: Yes


We thank Hordyk et al. (2019) for pointing out a typographical error in one of our equations, which has meanwhile been fixed in the online version of Froese et al. (2018) and addressed in a corrigendum for the printed version. We agree with Hordyk et al. (2019) that accounting for the pile-up effect in binned LF samples may be appropriate in, for example, tropical species with continuous reproduction, and we have provided for such correction as an option in the latest version of the LBB software. We note, however, that this correction as well as the LBSPR method of Hordyk et al. (2016) proposed by Hordyk et al. (2019) as an alternative to LBB leads to strong overestimation of exploitation and underestimation of stock status when compared with independent assessments of 34 real stocks from temperate and subtropical areas. As for the points raised by Hordyk et al. (2019) with regard to default priors for Linf and M/K, we maintain that these defaults are adequate for a wide range of exploited species. They can be easily replaced by users if better information is available. Warnings not to use LBB if LF samples do not show the typical asymmetric pattern were already provided in the original LBB paper and are repeated here.